SP: In a live performance you realise within 30 seconds whether something's working or not. In a studio you can disappear into this intellectual, er...

M: Wank.

SP: Wank, yes. You can think you're making something really meaningful but in a live arena it just won't translate. So when we were working on stuff here I would play the tracks when I was DJing and nobody would know what it was and you could see how things were actually working from the reaction.

M: That was one thing we did on this record that I haven't had the luxury of doing before. Because Stuart DJs all over the world we tried it all out - dub versions so they wouldn't know it was me or there would only be a strain of my vocal in the background. I even made him film things for me on his telephone so I could see the crowd reaction.

SP: It just looks like Sodom and Gomorrah. If the reaction wasn't instant we'd go back and change the tracks.

M: If only I could do everything like that - anonymously.